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Wednesday, July 11 2007LA Times: Giving a Voice to HamasHamas is aided and abetted by another mainstream US newspaper. Read more in HonestReporting's latest communique: LA Times: Giving a Voice to Hamas
TrackBackTrackBack URL for this entry: Listed below are links to weblogs that reference LA Times: Giving a Voice to Hamas: CommentsIt is amazing to me that the L.A. Times (I am a Californian btw)would allow itself to be used as a propaganda tool regarding it's publication of Hamas propaganda. Any paper or institution that allows itself to support terrorism in this way is nothing short of traitorous. The only reason I will ever read this trash newspaper is to see what the enemy is up to. I have seen the enemy and the enemy is us. If this were December 8, 1941, would the same papers have given op-ed to Adolf Hitler and Tojo under the idea that "everyone deserves to be heard". Do you think that if G-d wanted to get the 10 Commandments published, the papers would refuse unless the Devil were given equal time to refute the Commandments, line by line? If Palestine belonged to the Palestinian's first, why were there Jew's there before them? There weren't even Palestinian's before the '60's. I think there were Jew's there earlier. Would the Arab's living in Israel want to be goverened by Hamas? I think not. "Claim 4: Israeli leaders made 'repeated calls for the destruction of Palestine's non-Jewish inhabitants'. This is a rather disingenuous criticism. Marzouk didn't claim that it was an "official Israeli policy", he attributed the desire to Israeli leaders. Since there have been a number of members of the Knesset and the cabinet who openly supported the expulsion of the Arab population of the Occupied Territories and even some who advocated "transfer" for Arab-Israelis, his claim is not simply false. Granted, expulsion does not imply physical destruction, but some prominent Israelis (whether you dismiss them as extremists or not) have certainly implied that they would be happy with either outcome. Or do you deny that members of the cabinet, party leaders, and even MKs and rabbinic spiritual advisors are political leaders in Israel? Marzouk may be a thug, a liar, and a propagandist for a violent and dangerous organization, but you should resist the temptation to misrepresent reality yourselves. I am very leery of censorship in any form, but rebuttals such as your excellent article should be sent immediately to the media outlets which print these Op-Eds. Exposing more people to the blatant lies and obfuscations of these pieces with the reasoned truth is more helpful than banning the exposure. The following part of your recent communique is offensive: "The New York Times, Washington Post and now, the LA Times, by publishing Hamas op-eds, have aided and abetted a terror organization. If charity organizations can be prosecuted in American courts, why not media organizations?" I agree that giving scarce and valuable op ed space to representatives of terrorist organizations and self-proclaimed anti-Semites is abysmal editorial judgment. But to fail to recognize that such abysmal judgment is protected by the First Amendment guaranty of Freedom of the Press, the essence of what makes America unique, is equally abysmal. Such blindness and excess substantially detracts from the persuasiveness of your criticisms. I assume you communicate with those who may well not be true believers in your point of view. When you indulge in such rhetorical excess some of those are likely to be put off to your efforts to bring greater accuracy to what the media has to say about Israel and the Middle East. My hope is that you will eliminate succumbing to the temptation to equate the New York Times, LA Times and Washington Post with organizations set up as charities but whose true purpose is to raise money for and to support terror. Hamas has not changed their objectives. They want to take over the entire area including Israel. They are working in stages to accomplish this takeover of what they consider all of Palestine. The West Bank or Gaza are not enough; they want all the land from 1948, (which is not recognizing the existence of Israel for the past 59 years of statehood.) Hamas has not changed their objectives. They want to take over the entire area including Israel. They are working in stages to accomplish this takeover of what they consider all of Palestine. The West Bank or Gaza are not enough; they want all the land from 1948, (which is not recognizing the existence of Israel for the past 59 years of statehood.) While I salute your work, responding Israel has done a good job for over 50 years trying to tame the delinquents of the middle-east. Why would the leadership want to make peace when they make their lively-hood by what they are doing. The same thing went on in the USA during prohabition.It's up to the people who want peace and a life to take control of their country. Israel is not involved except to protect their citizens and borders. The Arab world It is a shame that a nation that boasts itself at being so democratic, with such important vehicles of opinion forming as the LA Times, has such a misconception of free press and gives free voice to Hamas,a terrorist organization, which is the antithesis of democracy. Please do not confuse democracy with condoning with fallacies and with the most venomous form of political action which is terror. Beware America. Remember 911. Hamas and other terrorist organizations hate not only Israel, but also christians and the west portrayed most by America. Abu Marzook cites a fake quote common on anti-Israel web sites: "We must expel Arabs and take their places." In the genuine 1937 letter to his son, Ben-Gurion wrote "We do not wish to, we do not need to expel Arabs and take their places". See Ephraim Karsh, Fabricating Israeli History, second revised edition p. xvii. How, pray tell, can a publication such as the LA Times give a forum to a organization whose charter clearly espouses genocide, not unlike the "ethnic cleansing" seen in other places. Money money and more dirty money. Look, there's no use complaining that major op-ed pages are carrying the views of Hamas (loathsome as such views are). Hamas is an impt political group (unfortunate as that is), and its views are therefore important. Publishing Hamas' views on the op-ed pages doesn't mean they're being endorsed. The thing to do is to respond to such views. Now, I believe the NY Times op-ed page has been slanted against Israel, but it has nothing to do with publishing Hamas' drivel. with friends like you, why should terrorist groups worry for support?!!!! In the world of Muslim extremists, there is no room for democracy or peace. The difference between the Jews and these peoples are that Jews choose life, while Muslims chose jihad and martyrdom. Goldie was right!!! When they learn to love their children more then they hate the Jews, then peace will come! The L.A.Times must in fairness print a rebuttal article such as yours alongside the Hamas misleading piece. Readers can respond by opinion articles or letters, but best of all, is to cancel your subscription and tell them why. Selma The Los Angeles Times has not had one understanding comment about Israel. Israel is always wrong. The Times prints the suffering of the poor Arabs, but omits the Israeli children who sleep in bomb shelters night after night because the rockets are flying from Gaza. There is no honest reporting of the suffering of Israeli citizens since the Lebanese war. Does The Times have a shortage of reporters in Israel. I would like to know what is going on there, honestly. Here's yet another example of the media cuddling up to Hamas, in the form of the BBC's Simon Wilson, writing in "The Editors" blog: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2007/07/the_joy_of_alan.html "The fact that they achieved this [the release of Alan Johnston) has sparked a debate about whether Hamas should be rewarded politically. Neither I nor the BBC will be entering that debate." I wonder what he calls this, then, if not "entering the debate": "Should the world now talk to Hamas?" http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?threadID=6781&&&&&edition=2&ttl=20070711231414 The BBC not only entered the debate, it actively fostered and encouraged it. However, this is nothing new. The BBC has been legitimising and sanitising the Hamas terror group for years. It has made it abundantly clear which side it is on in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. I don't buy the left wing media's "freedom of speech" justification here. They propagate the shameful moral equivalence which insists on granting equal respect and consideration to terrorists and the victims of terror. In fact, many of them even go beyond this since they promote the viewpoint of the terrorists over that of their victims. American organisations and media outlets which believe in the fantasy of Hamas as a peaceful negotiating partner with Israel seem to be stuck in the religious illusion of the lion lying down with the lamb. Such a conversation is as likely as a peaceful discussion between Al Qaeda and the US. I don't see the American media calling its government to conduct face-to-face peace talks with a terrorist organisation whose charter and raison d'être calls for the downfall of the US. The Hamas charter - equivalent to its constitution - specifically calls for the destruction of Israel. Why should Israel put its head in that noose? Israel is the only democratic country in the Mid-East letting people freely practice their religion and have other freedoms. Isn't this much better than trying to dictate and threaten people that they must live and think only in one very close minded and biased way? It sounds like the Ottoman Empire is again trying to take over the world, stating that all must be Muslim, nothing else. Can they empathize and know how it is to just be threatned by a fanatic group? The How about bringing these entities before a Judge and trying them for treason? That goes for the New York Times, the Washington Post and far, far too many others across this great nation. Dr. Wendy A. Tuch
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